Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons

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I am currently in the works for an outdoor enclosure for my sailfin.
question ko lang po,is it safe for the sailfins to be left overnight sa isang prototype outdoor enclosure? okay na po kasi yung daytime temperature, worry ko po yung sa nighttime.

Pet Legend Posts : 1893 Carpentaria Join date : 2012-10-03

they originate in places na may masmalamig na night time temp kesa sa urban cities so you dont have to worry about that. kung prototype enclo dapat escape proof yan at di mapapasok ng daga at mga ipis na posibleng contaminated with pesticide

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dlonelyboy wrote:: they originate in places na may masmalamig na night time temp kesa sa urban cities so you dont have to worry about that. kung prototype enclo dapat escape proof yan at di mapapasok ng daga at mga ipis na posibleng contaminated with pesticide

iuuwi ko na po kse sa province yung mga alaga ko. madalas po na malamig sa gabi dun. natatakot po kasi ako baka kapag iniwan ko sa labas mamatay sila sa lamig.
about the enclosure, 1 side lang po yung visible. 3 sides blocked tapos meron din roof incase of rain. problema ko po sa night,kailangan pa po ba ng light para mainitan sila or hindi na? outdoor enclosure po kasi. thanks po

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san ba probinsya mo? kung sa baguio ka di lang uv light ang need mo, pati heating pad kelangan. sa ganyang setup oo kelangan mo nga ng uv light sa gabi since walang natural sunlight na papasok galing taas during daytime.

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dlonelyboy wrote:: san ba probinsya mo? kung sa baguio ka di lang uv light ang need mo, pati heating pad kelangan. sa ganyang setup oo kelangan mo nga ng uv light sa gabi since walang natural sunlight na papasok galing taas during daytime.

no sir, sa rizal ako.
and about sunlight, like I said, prototype made sya. from 7-12 nn abot ng sunlight kalahati ng enclosure for the hotter spot. then after 12 wala na sunlight.
ang problem ko po yung sa night time. baka masyado malamig outdoors since may spot na open, wire mesh yung spot na yun, baka di nila kayanin yung lamig.

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yanz.vm wrote:

dlonelyboy wrote:: san ba probinsya mo? kung sa baguio ka di lang uv light ang need mo, pati heating pad kelangan. sa ganyang setup oo kelangan mo nga ng uv light sa gabi since walang natural sunlight na papasok galing taas during daytime.

no sir, sa rizal ako.
and about sunlight, like I said, prototype made sya. from 7-12 nn abot ng sunlight kalahati ng enclosure for the hotter spot. then after 12 wala na sunlight.
ang problem ko po yung sa night time. baka masyado malamig outdoors since may spot na open, wire mesh yung spot na yun, baka di nila kayanin yung lamig.

wild-caught ba yan sir? mas malamig sa kabundukan kung san madalas galing ang mga WC sailfins. don't worry kaya nila lamig. lagay ka nlng low-watt uv light para sa gabi. it's the high temp na dapat mo iwasan para di sila madehydrate. remember that sailfins have semi-aquatic habits.

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dlonelyboy wrote:

yanz.vm wrote:

dlonelyboy wrote:: san ba probinsya mo? kung sa baguio ka di lang uv light ang need mo, pati heating pad kelangan. sa ganyang setup oo kelangan mo nga ng uv light sa gabi since walang natural sunlight na papasok galing taas during daytime.

no sir, sa rizal ako.
and about sunlight, like I said, prototype made sya. from 7-12 nn abot ng sunlight kalahati ng enclosure for the hotter spot. then after 12 wala na sunlight.
ang problem ko po yung sa night time. baka masyado malamig outdoors since may spot na open, wire mesh yung spot na yun, baka di nila kayanin yung lamig.

wild-caught ba yan sir? mas malamig sa kabundukan kung san madalas galing ang mga WC sailfins. don't worry kaya nila lamig. lagay ka nlng low-watt uv light para sa gabi. it's the high temp na dapat mo iwasan para di sila madehydrate. remember that sailfins have semi-aquatic habits.

binili ko sir. natatakot kasi ako dati kase namatayan ako ng sailfin. nadehydrate. tapos yung isa namatay sya nighttime. pareho malakas yun bago mamatay.
so okay lang po ba yung gagawin ko? 24/7 nasa labas kasi outdoor enclosure even at night. maglalagay na lang po ako ng low watt light para just in case sobrang lamig meron sila heat source.

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one more thing, baka po may tips kayo para sa isang malaking enclosure. good for 1 year lang po yung sakin kase dalawa yung sailfin ko, male and female, so kung meron po kayo na advice para sa isang malaking enclosure, very much appreciated po. Smile

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yanz.vm wrote:: one more thing, baka po may tips kayo para sa isang malaking enclosure. good for 1 year lang po yung sakin kase dalawa yung sailfin ko, male and female, so kung meron po kayo na advice para sa isang malaking enclosure, very much appreciated po.

adults na ba sila? ung length x width ng enclo dapat at least x2 ng total length nila ung height pwede half meter ang taas or higher kung maglalagay ka ng mga kahoy na dapat meron talaga. mas better kung makakapaglagay ka ng palanggana na pwede nila languyan at isang hide na di kelangan malaki basta kasya silang dalawa sa loob. may budget ka naman ata para gumawa ng malaking enclo. good luck sa kanila! Very Happy

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dlonelyboy wrote:

yanz.vm wrote:: one more thing, baka po may tips kayo para sa isang malaking enclosure. good for 1 year lang po yung sakin kase dalawa yung sailfin ko, male and female, so kung meron po kayo na advice para sa isang malaking enclosure, very much appreciated po.

adults na ba sila? ung length x width ng enclo dapat at least x2 ng total length nila ung height pwede half meter ang taas or higher kung maglalagay ka ng mga kahoy na dapat meron talaga. mas better kung makakapaglagay ka ng palanggana na pwede nila languyan at isang hide na di kelangan malaki basta kasya silang dalawa sa loob. may budget ka naman ata para gumawa ng malaking enclo. good luck sa kanila! Very Happy

Yes Sir! Kahit pakonti-konti, nakukuha ko din naman yung outcome na gusto ko sa enclosure, tiyaga lang talaga. Very Happy

Kumpleto po yun, basking spot, pool, pati plants sa enclosure. gumagawa pa lang po ako ng cave nila or hiding place para sa gabi kapag malamig. salamat po sa tips sir. Smile

Subject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:17 am

Ok na yang set up mo sir, post a pic na lang sir pag complete na set up mo para may idea din sa outdoor enclosure ang iba na makakakita ng set up mo thumbs up

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yanz.vm wrote:

dlonelyboy wrote:

yanz.vm wrote:: one more thing, baka po may tips kayo para sa isang malaking enclosure. good for 1 year lang po yung sakin kase dalawa yung sailfin ko, male and female, so kung meron po kayo na advice para sa isang malaking enclosure, very much appreciated po.

adults na ba sila? ung length x width ng enclo dapat at least x2 ng total length nila ung height pwede half meter ang taas or higher kung maglalagay ka ng mga kahoy na dapat meron talaga. mas better kung makakapaglagay ka ng palanggana na pwede nila languyan at isang hide na di kelangan malaki basta kasya silang dalawa sa loob. may budget ka naman ata para gumawa ng malaking enclo. good luck sa kanila! Very Happy

Yes Sir! Kahit pakonti-konti, nakukuha ko din naman yung outcome na gusto ko sa enclosure, tiyaga lang talaga. Very Happy

Kumpleto po yun, basking spot, pool, pati plants sa enclosure. gumagawa pa lang po ako ng cave nila or hiding place para sa gabi kapag malamig. salamat po sa tips sir. Smile

anung plants yang nilagay mo? ingat sir ah baka toxic sa kanila yan..

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Mazach wrote:: Ok na yang set up mo sir, post a pic na lang sir pag complete na set up mo para may idea din sa outdoor enclosure ang iba na makakakita ng set up mo

yes sir. medyo maliit sya for a 11 inch sailfin, pero papalitan ko din this summer. okay lang ba na open yun sa gabi? baka kase mamatay yung sailfin sa night time temperature

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anung plants yang nilagay mo? ingat sir ah baka toxic sa kanila yan.. [/quote]

common terrarium plants po sir, lucky bamboo as shade tapos yung sa hiding spot po may moss sa loob. meron din croton

Subject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:07 pm

Ok lang yun, local sp naman ang sailfin at since wala ka naman sa baguio (na mababa ang night time temp) hindi naman nagkakalayo ang temp dyan sa antipolo kesa sa kung saan man sya nahuli, ang importante sa mga WC eh you try to duplicate ang environment nila

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Mazach wrote:: Ok lang yun, local sp naman ang sailfin at since wala ka naman sa baguio (na mababa ang night time temp) hindi naman nagkakalayo ang temp dyan sa antipolo kesa sa kung saan man sya nahuli, ang importante sa mga WC eh you try to duplicate ang environment nila

okay sir. maraming salamat. Smile

necessary po ba yung cave para sa hiding spot ng sailfin dragon?

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yanz.vm wrote:: anung plants yang nilagay mo? ingat sir ah baka toxic sa kanila yan..

common terrarium plants po sir, lucky bamboo as shade tapos yung sa hiding spot po may moss sa loob. meron din croton[/quote]

a great majority ng terrarium at houseplants natin sir poisonous sa pets. better not risk it baka nguyain ng sailfin yan.

pag bata pa kelangan talaga ng hide kasi mas prone sila sa stress. masasanay naman sila sa tao eventually.

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yanz.vm wrote:: I am currently in the works for an outdoor enclosure for my sailfin.
question ko lang po,is it safe for the sailfins to be left overnight sa isang prototype outdoor enclosure? okay na po kasi yung daytime temperature, worry ko po yung sa nighttime.

kindly disregard everything i said about providing heat (via uv) pag night time. like i originally said mawiwithstand naman nila night time cool temps.

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dlonelyboy wrote:

yanz.vm wrote:: I am currently in the works for an outdoor enclosure for my sailfin.
question ko lang po,is it safe for the sailfins to be left overnight sa isang prototype outdoor enclosure? okay na po kasi yung daytime temperature, worry ko po yung sa nighttime.

kindly disregard everything i said about providing heat (via uv) pag night time. like i originally said mawiwithstand naman nila night time cool temps.

any idea po sir para sa cave? plano ko po kase out of bricks, meron po kasi kami spare sa bahay.

Subject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:08 pm

@TS
They can withstand cool temps at night time. for outdoor set up, this is the following you should take note.

1. make sure that there will be direct sunlight hitting your enclosure.
--> why? Sailfin needs heat, they bask in the wild. this doesn't need na buong enclosure tinatamaan, mas maganda part a part of the enclosure lang.
2. malaking source of water sa loob ng enclosure.
--> this is for drinking, and humidity or paligu-an nila. at they will soak in water if they feel that they need to cool down.
3. Branches, since they always stay at trees sa wild kelangan eto para mas parang nasa wild sila. Iwas stres.
4. Hide/Shade, if they don't need heat, they will stay in this place. This will avoid them for overheating which causes heatstroke for most reptiles in captivity na napapabayaan dahil sa maling akala. Smile

another thing, I'd rather not put live plants, kakainin nila yan, if its not edible para sa kanila. baka malason pa. Smile

hope it helps

dlonelyboy wrote:

yanz.vm wrote:: I am currently in the works for an outdoor enclosure for my sailfin.
question ko lang po,is it safe for the sailfins to be left overnight sa isang prototype outdoor enclosure? okay na po kasi yung daytime temperature, worry ko po yung sa nighttime.

kindly disregard everything i said about providing heat (via uv) pag night time. like i originally said mawiwithstand naman nila night time cool temps.

dlonelyboy wrote:: wild-caught ba yan sir? mas malamig sa kabundukan kung san madalas galing ang mga WC sailfins. don't worry kaya nila lamig. lagay ka nlng low-watt uv light para sa gabi. it's the high temp na dapat mo iwasan para di sila madehydrate. remember that sailfins have semi-aquatic habits.

just to correct.. mali pong pag bigay ng UV sa night time. they'll be stress lang. it's because they need to sleep too.. Smile

Subject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:54 pm

Ang hibiscus plant (aka gumamela) safe sa lizards, part ng diet to ng mga igauna ko

Subject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:57 am

Mazach wrote:: Ang hibiscus plant (aka gumamela) safe sa lizards, part ng diet to ng mga igauna ko

yes, maganda yan for sailfin, yung bd ng kaibigan ko favorite pang kainin yan. Smile

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felmor wrote:

@TS
They can withstand cool temps at night time. for outdoor set up, this is the following you should take note.

1. make sure that there will be direct sunlight hitting your enclosure.
--> why? Sailfin needs heat, they bask in the wild. this doesn't need na buong enclosure tinatamaan, mas maganda part a part of the enclosure lang.
2. malaking source of water sa loob ng enclosure.
--> this is for drinking, and humidity or paligu-an nila. at they will soak in water if they feel that they need to cool down.
3. Branches, since they always stay at trees sa wild kelangan eto para mas parang nasa wild sila. Iwas stres.
4. Hide/Shade, if they don't need heat, they will stay in this place. This will avoid them for overheating which causes heatstroke for most reptiles in captivity na napapabayaan dahil sa maling akala. Smile

another thing, I'd rather not put live plants, kakainin nila yan, if its not edible para sa kanila. baka malason pa. Smile

hope it helps

Thanks a lot. natapos ko na yung cage, but my problem is that nagkasugat yung sailfin ko cause of ramming the wire, I used the common screen mesh, the green plastic screen, then napansin ko yung wound nya sa mouth this morning, slight lang naman pero I'm worried that his Mouth Rot may come back.
Everything on the list is done with my cage, wala naman sharp edges, so ano po maganda gawin? should I put him back to my custom Durabox?(I used this with my Nile Croc when she was still small, 10 inches in length) meron naman po kase yun screen and naarawan naman yung sailfin ko dun, but not much. Or should I stay with the Custom Cage?

dlonelyboy wrote:

yanz.vm wrote:: I am currently in the works for an outdoor enclosure for my sailfin.
question ko lang po,is it safe for the sailfins to be left overnight sa isang prototype outdoor enclosure? okay na po kasi yung daytime temperature, worry ko po yung sa nighttime.

kindly disregard everything i said about providing heat (via uv) pag night time. like i originally said mawiwithstand naman nila night time cool temps.

dlonelyboy wrote:: wild-caught ba yan sir? mas malamig sa kabundukan kung san madalas galing ang mga WC sailfins. don't worry kaya nila lamig. lagay ka nlng low-watt uv light para sa gabi. it's the high temp na dapat mo iwasan para di sila madehydrate. remember that sailfins have semi-aquatic habits.

just to correct.. mali pong pag bigay ng UV sa night time. they'll be stress lang. it's because they need to sleep too.. Smile

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And one thing, Pano po yung Hiding Spot? ano maganda Material(s) para dun? any suggestions would help a lot, thanks po. Smile

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Thanks a lot. natapos ko na yung cage, but my problem is that nagkasugat yung sailfin ko cause of ramming the wire, I used the common screen mesh, the green plastic screen, then napansin ko yung wound nya sa mouth this morning, slight lang naman pero I'm worried that his Mouth Rot may come back.
Everything on the list is done with my cage, wala naman sharp edges, so ano po maganda gawin? should I put him back to my custom Durabox?(I used this with my Nile Croc when she was still small, 10 inches in length) meron naman po kase yun screen and naarawan naman yung sailfin ko dun, but not much. Or should I stay with the Custom Cage?

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